First Fall-Out
This is the beginning of things to come in the new Obama administration. I predict blacks will be the next casualties. I wonder how many of these votes Barack Obama would have lost if they knew he wouldn't help usher in same-sex marriage. The voters not just in California, but Florida and Arizona too. Two of which electoral votes went to Barack Obama. It was voted against soundly in all three of those states. To give us some idea of the impact of this legislation would have. In one state alone that possibly nullifies 18,000 marriages. That's quite a few people. When you consider their far reaching influence. I bet he received 98% of the homosexual vote. I don't know how many votes that equates to, but no doubt they helped elect him. It's interesting to note that both blacks and Hispanics were largely in support of this measure. Which left the homosexual community feeling betrayed by other minorities. They have long tried to attach themselves to the civil rights struggle. Neither group is taking up their cause though. Hispanics are keeping quiet, hoping immigration doesn't take the center stage. This is just the first fall-out.
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Common, Obama only received 73% of the LGBT vote.
I read on a gay conservative site (yes, they do exist) that McCain got more votes than any other GOP candidate ever has with 27%. McCain also gave at least one interview to a gay magazine courting the LGBT vote. It apparently had an effect.
In my humble opinion I think a LGBT Conservative is an oxymoron.
Thanks for the numbers. I was just using my liberal license. I was using a number off the top of my head, but you get the point. The majority of LGBT supported Obama.
Believe it or not, there is discrimination among even them. Now it's going to be worse than before.
We now have an Afro American as President. This is great and a good thing. The first 43 never did a damn thing but fool, trick, swindle, bamboozle and joke over our people.
Now there is a chance to turn things around on "Mr. Charlie", and show him we are not a mean and hateful people by nature. We love and care for those who love and care for us. We always have!
What does concern me is that in the past few days we have a white man for Chief of Staff. We have a white man for Press Secretary. These 2 positions are the 2 most powerful. Rumor has it that a white man will run the Treasury. A white man will run the Fed. I like your reference to color in the White House but where is it going to be? They've got maids and house cats cleaning the place up already.
If anything, we as a people need to begin to breathe down President Obama's neck and let him know that just because he is in there, doesn't mean he can go back to the shuck and jive. We not going to have that!
The first 43 never did a damn thing but fool, trick, swindle, bamboozle and joke over our people.
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I agree some did but the last few years it has been your own race that has fooled, tricked and swindled you.
Name me something specifically the last few Presidents have done that targeted black people. What have they done to supress you or keep you down
Then you have the nerve to say "we are not a mean and hateful people by nature" but then you call whites Mr. Charlie. You doi realize if it wasn't for MR. Charlie Barack wouldnt be the President elect. I'm not saying blacks are mean and hateful by nature but apparently you are
Common,
I like the knew look on your site
Nature of the beast (humans)…regardless who is the President of the United States there will be people who are unhappy. Unfortunately, there are people who are extreme in their beliefs and they commit terrorist acts abroad and at home. Personally, I am a firm believer in treating others how I want to be treated and respect there opinions even if their opinions differ from mine.
Life would be less stressful :)
Brian:
Anon 1:56 is just trying to start some mess.
It wouldn't surprise me if he's actually White.
In my humble opinion I think a LGBT Conservative is an oxymoron.
I agree, but anyone can be fiscally conservative.
YES we did win on Prop 8. I AM glad for that. Not everyone who voted for Obama is a far left liberal extremist. I am beyond happy about the outcome of Prop 8 and am proud to have voted the way I did. I make no apologies about that to anyone I know no matter how far left they are. It was TRUE that Gay marriage would have been taught in schools. Even if the school staff did not teach it, the parents would and my experience is proof of that. Just one month two "moms" of a child in my daughter's kindergarten class approached the children at their lunch table during school hours (as to have a captive audience) and announced "We are *****'s MOMS and we are married". My daughter came home with a million questions about this and how it "happens" etc. Questions I was not prepared to answer and felt she did not need to even be thinking of at age 5! These "parents" are very involved in the school and donate alot of money to the school which is in a very affluent neighborhood. Everything else about the school is wonderful but this incident infuriorated me so, being that I have a big mouth (can't you tell?) I was not embarrassed or ashamed to file a complaint, in person, with the Principal. She, of course, apologized profusely and stated that it was not the school's policy to teach anything about marriage period and that parents are not even ALLOWED in the lunch area during school hours so she was just as upset as I was to hear this. Point is, the school can "not" teach it all they want but they cannot (as demonstrated a month ago) prevent parents from doing so. I feel the fact that these two women were legally married made them feel as though they had the "Constitutional Right" to approach this Kindergarten table with this nonsense. Now I get glares from these 2 "moms" and their daughter will not play with my daughter because their daughter was walking around singing "I kissed a girl and I liked it..." to which my daughter replied "that is inappropriate". I am sure they think my Husband and I are some back woods ignorant Republicans...if they only knew who we voted for.
When Obama visited Florida during his campaign he was hosted by the Cuban American National Foundation, a longtime bastion of Republicans who shot down any attempt to ease the embargo. Obama ended up carrying Florida, winning even in counties that re-elected Republican representatives who have been the most stalwart proponents of isolating Cuba.
The girls are getting rowdy.
They're just a thrifty homosexual.
They aren't going quietly into the night. It would be interesting to know how many votes they accounted for. I saw a march they put on the other night and they had a large crowd.
Across nation, gay advocates protest marriage ban
By Jay Lindsay
Associated Press
Sunday, November 16, 2008
BOSTON -- Gay rights supporters waving rainbow colors marched, chanted and danced in cities coast to coast Saturday to protest the vote that banned gay marriage in California and to urge supporters not to quit the fight for the right to wed.
M. Spencer Green/Associated Press
Hundreds of protesters hold signs as they protest a gay marriage ban approved two weeks ago by Californians in Chicago's Federal Plaza Saturday, Nov. 15, 2008. The event is part of a simultaneous protest planned for cities nationwide.
Crowds gathered near public buildings in cities large and small, including Boston, San Francisco, Chicago and Fargo, to vent their frustrations, celebrate gay relationships and renew calls for change.
"Civil marriages are a civil right, and we're going to keep fighting until we get the rights we deserve as American citizens," said Karen Amico, one of several hundred protesters in Philadelphia, holding up a sign reading "Don't Spread H8".
"We are the American family, we live next door to you, we teach your children, we take care of your elderly," said Heather Baker a special education teacher from Boston who addressed the crowd at Boston's City Hall Plaza. "We need equal rights across the country."
Connecticut, which began same-sex weddings this past week, and Massachusetts are the only two states that allow gay marriage. The other 48 states do not, and 30 of them have taken the extra step of approving constitutional amendments. A few states allow civil unions or domestic partnerships that grant some rights of marriage.
Protests following the vote on Proposition 8 in California, which defined marriage as between a man and a woman, have sometimes been angry and even violent, and demonstrators have targeted faiths that supported the ban, including the Mormon church.
However, representatives of Join the Impact, which organized Saturday's demonstrations, asked supporters to be respectful and refrain from attacking other groups during the rallies.
Seattle blogger Amy Balliett, who started the planning for the protests when she set up a Web page three days after the California vote, said persuasion is impossible without civility.
"If we can move anybody past anger and have a respectful conversation, then you can plant the seed of change," she said.
Balliett said supporters in 300 cities in the U.S. and other countries were holding marches, and she estimated 1 million people would participate, based on responses at the Web sites her group set up.
"We need to show the world when one thing happens to one of us, it happens to all of us," she said.
The protests were widely reported to be peaceful, and the mood in Boston was generally upbeat, with attendees dancing to the song "Respect." Signs cast the fight for gay marriage as the new civil rights movement, including one that read "Gay is the new black."
But anger over the ban and its backers was evident at the protests.
One sign in Chicago, where several thousand people gathered, read: "Catholic Fascists Stay Out of Politics."
"I just found out that my state doesn't really think I'm a person," said Rose Aplustill, 21, a Boston University student from Los Osos, Calif., who was one of thousands at the Boston rally.
In San Francisco, demonstrators took shots at some religious groups that supported the ban, including a sign aimed at the Mormon church and its abandoned practice of polygamy that read: "You have three wives; I want one husband."
Chris Norberg, who married his partner in June, also referred to the racial divisions that arose after exit polls found that majorities of blacks and Hispanics supported the constitutional ban on same-sex marriage.
"They voted against us," Norberg said.
In Salt Lake City, where demonstrators gathered just blocks from the headquarters of the Mormon church, one sign pictured the city's temple with a line adapted from former Republican vice president candidate Sarah Palin: "I can see discrimination from my house."
More than 500 demonstrators in Washington marched from the U.S. Capitol through the city carrying signs and chanting "One, two, three, four, love is what we're fighting for!"
A public plaza at the foot of New York's Brooklyn Bridge was packed by a cheering crowd of thousands, including people who waved rainbow flags and wore pink buttons that said "I do."
Protests were low-key in North Dakota, where people lined a bridge in Fargo carrying signs and flags.
Mike Bernard, who was in the crowd of hundreds at City Hall in Baltimore, said Proposition 8 could end up being a good thing for gay rights advocates.
"It was a swift kick in the rear end," he said.
In Los Angeles, protesters gathered near City Hall before marching through downtown. Police said 10,000 to 12,000 people demonstrated.
Supporters of traditional marriage said the rallies may have generated publicity but ultimately made no difference.
"They had everything in the world going for them this year, and they couldn't win," said Frank Schubert, co-manager of the Yes on 8 campaign in California. "I don't think they're going to be any more successful in 2010 or 2012."
In Chicago, Keith Smith, 42, a postal worker, and his partner, Terry Romo, 34, a Wal-Mart store manager, had photos of a commitment ceremony they held, though gay marriage is not legal in Illinois.
"We're not going to wait for no law," Smith said. "But time's going to be on our side and it's going to change."
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