Friday, February 02, 2007

Where Did The Word "Picnic" Come From ?



It was typical to have a picnic on a Friday evening in Oklahoma. The word was short for "pick a nigger" to lynch. They would lynch a Black male and cut off body parts as souvenirs. This went on every weekend in this country, and it was all across the county.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

i cannot see why black people do not know what word came from in usa,,,,,,,

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Until recently I didn't know.

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Blogger fabulustblogger said...

actually, it seems your info is wrong. I am black and too thought that the word was born during the slave era, but it is actually a french saying that means an outdoor fest or eating outdoors. Do a lil research to see what else you find.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

@fabulustblogger...you're exactly right about its French origin....the other crap is an urban legend....Come on, people....

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Blogger luvs2cover said...

It came from pic a nigga like he said, it might the word might have been french but some whites stole it like they did everything back then cause it fit, so you do more research. stay real to yourself.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am 53 years young and u r wrong the word does mean to pick a nigger and lynch. The elders in my family didn"t lie

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

fabulusblogger b 4 you correct someone, do more research u'r self. Try by reading African American History as told by Black American Historians. Not those who have to cover up what they have done though out American History.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

The first usage of the word is traced to the 1692 edition of Tony Willis, Origines de la Langue Française, which mentions pique-nique as being of recent origin; it marks the first appearance of the word in print. The term was used to describe a group of people dining in a restaurant who brought their own wine. For long a picnic retained the connotation of a meal to which everyone contributed something. Whether picnic is actually based on the verb piquer which means 'pick' or 'peck' with the rhyming nique meaning "thing of little importance" is doubted; the Oxford English Dictionary says it is of unknown provenance. The word predates lynching in the United States; claims that it is derived from a shortening of 'pick a nigger' are not true.[2]

The word picnic first appeared in English in a letter of the Gallicized Lord Chesterfield in 1748 (OED), who associates it with card-playing, drinking and conversation, and may have entered the English language from this French word.[3] The practice of an elegant meal eaten out-of-doors, rather than a harvester worker's dinner in the harvest field, was connected with respite from hunting from the Middle Ages; the excuse for the pleasurable outing of 1723 in Lemoyne's painting (illustration, left) is still offered in the context of a hunt.

RESEACRCH... DONT BE IGNORANT. I may be white i may be black... DOESNT MATTER.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

American Whites have always played with the english language, especially when dealing with Black Americans. For all of you Uncle Tom who have been breast fed your knowledge of self by your masters, this word came from France. As for myself, this term was made famous in this country during a horrible era...one of the biggest crimes in world history. Most people treat it as taboo to speak of yet other nationalities are always remembering their history, both good-and-painful. Why are we the only people attempting to be other than ourselves to be liked/accepted/employed/etc?

Where does the theory of the treatment of Native Americans, African Americans, Haitians, Cubans, South Africans, Native Austrailians, Indians, etc stem from. Try answering that!!

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Blogger T-Bone said...

How about this, the question was "where did the term COME from". Either way, if the timeline is correct then obviously it was in use by the french regarding eating out. Then it appears that the word found new meaning by those that participated in organized death hunts of US.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

thankyou tbone !

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Of course it has to be something negative about black people.

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Yeahh. Ignorant People Always Have Somethin To Say About Blacks. Ech. Makes Me Freakin Sick that is not necessary.

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Blogger fam4umfilly said...

the question is where it originated from, not where it was used for the most.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

For real? So what about http://www.snopes.com/language/offense/picnic.asp

or

http://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/question/jan04.htm

OR

http://www.blackvoicenews.com/more-sections/8-commentary/41888-an-urban-legend-that-binds-us-the-word-picnic-.html

Just curious where your info came from.

Let's not spread hatred.

10:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know?

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now you know...and knowing brings understanding.. I have learn to forgive but to forget, how can I? You do understand don't you?

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Blogger ty said...

Ok, lets say ur right about it all then the word fits perfectly!!! "little importance" (black people) "feast outside" (celebrating after killing one) sound like its a perfect match! So yes, to me thats where it came from!

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I was a child in the '50s we would visit my grandfather's farm in Alabama. I vividly recall sitting on the porch on hot evenings, listening to stories told by people who were old even then, and were former slaves from the 1800s. They would tell of postings on bulletin boards in town, that alerted Whites that they would have a "Lynching, then a Picnic of a nigga" on the weekends.....Then some brainiac put it together and transposed the phrase, "Pic-a-nig". All across "Lynching states" in the south, that phrase became standard among racists and illiterate Whites. They stopped saying "Lynchin and a Picnic", and simply posted fliers saying, "We gonna have a Pic-a-Nig.".......People knew what they meant............Regardless of the word "picnic's" origin, in the South it took on a different association than what the French meant it to be.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

The word seem to have originated in France.....but took on a whole new meaning with the Southerners of America. It was very disturbing then to know how another human being can torture anyone else because of hatred. But, we all need to forgive to be able to move forward. There are a lot of other crimes that we need to focus on.....especially when it comes to our children. The violence needs to STOP!!!!!

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I agree.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

The word does mean "Pick a Nigger". I am a black man and in some reading I recently did, thats where the word comes from. It came from Europe.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Exactly. The word came from France. If anybody flipped it and bounced it to some bullshit that's on them. I'm black and I use the word nigga. Which stems from Nigger which stems from Negroes. Originally from the word Negro meaning black. So let's everybody turn the word picnic positive. And have one together. I'll bring the macoroni salad. Cool? Thanx. And for all the angry black people out there I hear ya but fuck them old racist bastards. They all dead or about to be dead anyway. And if they can't coexist with blacks on earth they damn sure can't do it in heaven. Lol so guess where they're going... Exactly. And it's hot down there and they're gonna burn and be black like us. Owwww

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My brethan, u may very well be coexisting with these old racist black....... if u don't tame your tongue (James4:5-12). There certainly isn't profanity in heaven.

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Whether the word originated in France or not, whether racist whites adapted it to describe their heinous, inhumane crimes during the 17th, 18th, or 19th centuries, the FACT is that IT HAPPENED, and we know it! The "hatred" is what white people did to us, NOT whether we agree on the origin of a word that now describes that travesty.

WE KNOW that white people brutally murdered Black people for no reason whatsoever other than their unwarranted hatred of us by way of forcible hanging (lynching), and that they often gathered in droves to witness these lynchings, oftenbringing their children to witness/experience, men would bring their dates, and some municipalities would even shut the county buildings down, women would prepare meals for their families, and people (often the Klan, but non-Klan whites participated in these practices as well) would prepare a "feast" for the "outdoors", then "barbeque" a Black person; hence, utilizing all the definitions you cite as the word's origin (including the one meaning "of little impoortance" citied by someone else above.

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When i think of Negro Mountain located in Cumberland MD,....and i studied the origin of the words Negro Mountain and discovered that it was actually once called "Nigger Mountain" but put short for negro because of the transformation from slavery to independence! So it doesnt surprise me to find out what "picnic" means!! The Wikipedia says french but the Wikipedia wont give u the true meanings of such things!! sometimes u gotta dig deeper!!

2:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WELL SAID!!

12:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

L O L rotfcthu. I'm spechless with a mouthful to say lol enough said!!!

2:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amen. Know them that labor among you. I don't hate anyone. It's not hate! It's truth revealed!!! I am in my early 40 and i had no knowledge until very recently what our ancestor went through to afford us the access we have now to public transportation to education to just freedom ect. I never considered it because I was never taught about it. It means so much to me now. I teach it to my children. We come from hardworking determined find away people we are Not what they classify us to be. Thank You So Much! Want to be one of the ones that make your sacrifice worth it!!!

2:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Question: What did we do to make them hate us?
Usually when the word hate is used it's because of some horrible unthinkable act on someone's behalf.
What did we do to insue such hatred

2:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just heard from Miss Ali on Dr. Drew, that the word "picnic" came from slavery times in the 20's & 30', therefore, I will never use that word again.








10:10 PM  
Blogger Common said...


I had no idea this post generated this much traffic/ I would like to hace addressed some of the commenrs.

I don't dispute the worsd was first used in France, but not for the purpose of this post. I didn't think so many Frenchmen were reading this blog

Let me put it this way. What do you think it meant to a black man in the South in the Jim Crow days?

11:52 PM  
Blogger ISAYSO said...

If you look closely at the one definition given it says it was when whites would gather for a outdoor HUNT, what were they hunting???? Hmmm, it did mean to Pic a nigger as entertainment while they ate their lunch on their lawns, not in a restaurant. Again, Most of white history is nothing but stolen black living. Sorry but - so many inventions were thought of by blacks and who got the credit, they white slave owners. And the first black president isn't Obama, he isn't even black--it was in fact John Henson who taught Abraham Lincoln. But history is nothing more than theirstory which is our stolen heritage. It's not a back and forth opinion, it's a fact.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please read the book The Making pa a Slave by Willie lynch.......

2:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Making of a slave by Willie Lynch

2:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its does mean pic a nigger u ignorant white bitches!!!!! Learn ur so called American history!!!

1:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Best explanation so far. Makes sense now.

10:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i love it. a person on the internet that is willing to educate themselves! you fabulustblogger, win the internet today!

11:50 AM  

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